japan used to be the most powerful economy in the region but china has grown, a lot of it is due to the help that japan has given it. but now china feels that its day has returned. >> and in fact it surpassed japan just in economic test. >> that's right. and it is now building up a military capable which is still interior to that of japan. and definitely inper-- inferior to that of the united states but they feel now that china can't be pushed aroundment and they want to assert themselves. and so when their territorial interests are being challenged, then they push very hard. the other reason is-- . >> warner: were you talking about japan or china. >> china. >> warner: and what about japan? >> then japan feels that it is on the defensive. that if it does not show kind of firmness and resolve, then it invites further intimidation and bullying on the part of china. so even though the intrendic interests of these islands may be marchial by giving in to chinese intimidation, they feel then that that is kind of rewards that bullying on the part of china. >> warner: there s of course, these u